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OPINIONS REGARDING PROSTHETICS => In my opinion => Topic started by: Tigertatt on February 29, 2008, 02:38:11 PM

Title: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on February 29, 2008, 02:38:11 PM
 Hi, Everyone

  I'll be getting my first leg/foot here in the next couple weeks and I've pretty much decided on the Perfect Stride II foot from Bioquest. http://www.bioquestpros.com/index.html  I've heard nothing but good stuff about this foot so I was wondering if anyone here has used or is using this foot?

 I'm a very active person k-3 or k-4 level even into k-4 extreme. I'd like to hear what feet everyone else have tried and what your opinions of them are.  -- and PLEASE don't give me any of the "everyone is different" crap Im asking your opinion of the feet you have tried and what you like or dislike about each.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 01, 2008, 03:26:37 AM
OK 15 people have viewed this post and your going to tell me NOT ONE of you use a prosthetic foot?  ???  Doesn't anyone know what foot they use?  ;) :P
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Michael on March 01, 2008, 07:59:43 AM
Tiger,
I have not used a Perfect Stride Foot on any of my clients, although I have seen it.  You could try several different feet from different manufactures to see which one you like best.  I don't believe that any one foot is better than another, because the best foot is the one you feel best with.  Every manufacture claims their product is better than any other.

I do suggest that you try the Ceterus foot by Ossur.  I use it on active amputees because of it's many features.  It has a split toe and heel (carbon fiber) built-in rotation and air shock.  The rotation and air shock are adjustable by the user with a small hand held air pump.  If you do compare the two let us all know what you think.  www.ossur.com   
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: JClark on March 01, 2008, 09:17:48 AM
It looks like a cool foot.  The video is incredible.

However, I don't see anything in there I couldn't do with my ceterus foot.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Mitchee on March 01, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
My first foot was an Ossur Re-flex VSP.  I didn't know what to expect so I thought it was good.  After a couple of weeks, my prosthetist asked me try a another foot for comparison. I chose to try a Seattle Catalyst.  I liked it much better than the other foot for various reasons.  I ended up keeping the Seattle Catalyst and I love it.  It probably doesn't have all of the bells and whistles that other feet have but it is a good match for me.  It is carbon fiber and it is light weight.  I am a K4 activity level and do everything except run with this foot.  I use it for all of my everyday activities as well as sports.

Here is the link for the Seattle Catalyst in case you want to see what it looks like...

http://www.kingsleymfg.com/KMFGStore/Catalog_Product.asp?dept_id=08C3AA37-EC92-472C-8235-646AEEFC7C47&product_id=SHF29

Let me know if you try the Perfect Stride foot.  I would like to learn more about it as well.

Be sure to try a couple of different feet before you choose one.  Good luck and I hope you find the foot that's right for you.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 01, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
THANK YOU -Mitchee for being the only one that actually answered my question about "what have you used and your likes and dislikes"

 In all honesty I have done more research on prosthetic feet than most prosthetist and I really do know what's on the market, who makes what, and when to use what foot.  I do agree that the Ceterus and LP Ceterus are good looking feet but I tend to think that most prosthetist (that I've talked too) tend to stick with what they know and like and most do not venture into trying new technology. And guess what Ossur and Otto Bock are the old comfortable horses on the market. As a design engineer I can see and understand what works well even though I have not actually tried any products yet. I totally agree that all amputees should try as many feet as possible (since all feet have a 30 or 60 day trial period on them) and find the foot that works best for them.  But in my 2 1/2 years of research I've come to find that 90% of the amputees out there have no clue to whats on the market and in the past when I've asked this exact same question I always get the answer "we are all so different you'll have to see what your prosthetist says" well is NOT an acceptable answer. This answer tells me "I have no clue and just go with what I'm told", and as stated above most the prosthetists I've talked with (about 20 at this time) tend to stick with the old reliable they know and love even though we have all seen that todays technology is growing in leaps and bounds and that "old reliable" foot may not be the best foot anymore.

 I believe if we as amputees become more aware of what we are using and step up and share the information that you have then all of us as amputees will be more educated and most of all more comfortable in the long run.  ;D
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 01, 2008, 04:08:59 PM
Nothing wrong with being aware of what's available, but you've gone completely in the other direction. If you honestly believe that you know everything and you know what you need, why bother coming on here to ask what others think? Specially if you believe they know less than you!
You have much to learn and do well to take what people say about us all being different a little more seriously. It isn't crap, anything but.
I have experience of two people who, on the surface seem to have the same needs and desires, opting for very different products.
There are subtlties and nuances you cannot possibly understand having never worn a foot... good luck, though with all your superior knowledge, no doubt you'll be fine. ;)

I think, by the way, you'll get a better response without such an agressive attitude, telling us all that what we might think is 'crap' without us having the chance to even say it, for example.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 01, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
Easy OBL -- I know your still running a little hot from the flying post on that other forum.

 I'm sorry if I come off a little too strong and I know that I rub some people the wrong way and I'm fine with that. But the more we share about what we are using and what we like and dislike about these products the better informed all of us can be when the time comes to pick your new leg parts.  Your only proving my point that when I ask the simple question of "what do you use and your likes and dislikes" that most amputees tend to avoid this question and usually spout off with some politically correct answer that doesn't say anything about what you like or dislike. I find this strange but it is the truth. I know none of us will ever be exactly the same in our situation but I can tell you Otto Bock isn't make a foot JUST FOR YOU it's a generic fit everyone foot and someone in my similar situation really likes a particular foot then I will make sure that I try that foot when the time comes, BUT unless someone steps up to the plate and actually answers my question and tells me the name of a particular foot then how am I to ever know what options are out there? ;)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 01, 2008, 05:23:50 PM
'flying post on that other forum'? you've lost me there I'm afraid.

You've said you're K4 (having never worn a foot, I find it a bit difficult understanding how you come to that conclusion, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume everything goes well for you and you become that active) so as I am not, any information I give you would be of no benefit or interest to you.

But anyway, I have a trial foot that's not available on the market yet and I think it's the best thing since sliced bread.... there, that hasn't helped you either has it?

Before that I had an ENDOLITE Esprit, that was the best foot I'd worn up the that point. Comfortable compliance at heel strike, smooth roll over and plenty of energy return at toe off.

We should share our experiences, I agree with that
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Marilyn on March 01, 2008, 05:33:19 PM
New Feet!!!  Whoo Hoo!

I'm soon in the market for a new foot.  I know exactly what I have:  College Park Tribute.  I still haven't a clue why my old prosthetist told me repeatedly that he was giving me a College Park Venture.  They are quite similar except that I think the Venture is a bit of an upgrade from the tribute.  I still wonder if my prosthetist charged my insurance for the more expensive foot???

At any rate, I have no experience to go by.  I've been an amputee since August 05 and this is the first and only foot I've tried.

Do I understand correctly that I can trial a foot when the time comes???  THEN I will have some comparison to go by.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 01, 2008, 05:56:52 PM
YES -- Marilyn  all feet come with either a 30 or 60 day trial period, this means your prosthetist can return the foot at anytime for any reason within that time period and it won't cost him a dime.  The only cost would be from your prosthetist if he/she charges you for the time and effort it takes to change over from one foot to another.

 and YES OBL -- the information you provided has helped alot.  would help even more if you by chance knew the name or maker of your new trial foot. I do know that Bioquest (makers of the perfect stride II) have a new prototype foot they are trying on test patients.  pist to jog your memory -- the post "treatment in US airports" ;D
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 01, 2008, 06:40:36 PM
Oh I get you now... ;)  ::)

Thinking about it, I'm not sure a top level high energy return foot is the best prescription for you as a primary. It may offer too much resistance to you stump within the socket too early and ultimately slow your rehabilitation. A lower end foot may be better for you initially. It may be worth discussing this with you prosthetist. Doing too much too soon can slow your recovery. There's a real danger with assuming you know everything and not listening to the experts.

And no, I won't tell you the make of the foot I'm wearing ;), nothing personal.

Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 01, 2008, 07:03:30 PM
HEHE nothing personal taken -- I completely understand since I know someone using and I too will have a chance to use a brand new prototype vacuum socket system that is being tested right now.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: pin-hi on March 02, 2008, 01:08:54 AM
I was checking out the Bioquest Perfect Stride with my prosthetist the other day. Looks like a great foot, but not perfect for my needs. It's like a Harley Davidson motorcycle, great for straight aways but maybe not so dynamic in the "twisties". I'm most likely going to try the College Park Venture this time around. We considered a Delta Twist adapter, but then there would be too much going on for my needs. So, Venture it is, with regular pylon. I've worn the Reflex VSP, too heavy and "busy" for me, and currently use the Advantage DP for daily use at work and golfing. Ages ago, 15 years ago,  I had a Seattle light foot with an Endolite ankle, but shearing the ankle bolt a few times got me onto other feet. For me, liner and socket compatibility are the most important factors. I'm having custom cast TEC liners made this time around as I have a very short, boney, pointed right stump which, due to grafted skin, can break down easier than my left residual limb. I feel that you can have a $10,000.00 foot and it's worth squat if you can't wear it due to a poor fitting socket. The gentleman who started this thread needs to stop SHOUTING in his posts and realize that we're all adults here. Don't feel offended if people don't respond to your posts right away... we have lives too.Cheers. David in Canada. Double Bk amputee. 32 years now.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Marilyn on March 02, 2008, 12:02:33 PM
David, my situation is much like yours (and probably most everyone else):  I am a hard to fit socket and socket fit is the #1 priority.  I spent nearly two years with a locally reknown prosthetist who couldn't build me a socket that I could walk with.  I have an end of the tibia problem that can only be fixed by a good, well bumped out socket as well as an alignment problem which was fixed (finally) by a coyote type coupler.

Only now, after finding an angel of a leg man who built me a wonderful socket (and I know he can do it again!), can I worry about the foot.  Feet-smeet.  I could walk in a pegleg as long as socket fit is very good!
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Sparky on March 02, 2008, 12:07:31 PM
I learnt (painfully) that you can do too much too soon and it can slow you down. I've only been an amputee for 2 yrs now and spent half that time in a wheelchair >:(. The reason, I tried to take on too much when I first got my legs. I will admit that both my residual limbs are fragile due to 3rd degree burns.

I too considered myself as active and wanted to get back to my old ways asap - it just doesn't work like that. You have to build up slowly through different leg configurations until you get what you need to live your life to the max.

It has taken a while to find the right balance between liner, socket and the feet. I now use Endolite's Navigation feet as these have taken a lot of the pressure of my stumps and given me more freedom of movement.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 02, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
 Unlike most amputees My amputation was elective and I was lucky enough to have 2 years of free time to nothing but research every aspect of a BKA. This is why I am a member of many of the active amputee forums. I took this free time as a blessing and knew that I needed to take advantage of the fact that I still had 2 feet and could literally walk into many different prosthetist offices and do endless interviews until I found one that I really liked (and could put up with me). After talking to 100's if not 1000's of amputees I decided that the Ertl procedure was the best possible procedure for myself so the next step was to find a surgeon. So after a couple weeks and many phone calls I got ahold of Jan Ertl and he said at current time he was not working for any specific hospital but if I was willing to wait for him to find a place to do the surgery he would do my Ertl amputation. Knowing I had the best of the best for this specific amputation oh heck yes I was willing to wait. Now knowing that I was going to get the absolute strongest (foundation) type of amputation. And feeling very very confident and comfortable with the skills of the prosthetist that I had picked (socket system taken care of) it was time to move on to feet. And this is how I ended up here at this point asking "what feet have you tried and what do you like or dislike about them".  so yes i do know the importance of how strong your stump needs to be and yes yes again I also know that if your socket doesn't fit your going to be on your butt and not out running around on you spiffy new leg. But why why why don't most amputees actually answer the above question at face value?  This is the 4th forum I have asked this question on again everyone feels the need to try and tell me what is best for me while completely avoiding the question at hand. And this is why I seem to be short, loud and rude when in all honesty I would just like the question I asked answered and at the same time passing on a collective knowledge of all of you to anyone else that might happen to be in the market for a new foot.  ;D

 No I'm not angry or upset at anyone ;) just confused at why a simple question goes unanswered time and time again ???  I've picked out (for now unless people actually answer this question and change my mind) 4 or 5 different feet that I'm going to try first. I was just hoping to gain a few more ideas by asking this question again and in the process I thought "just maybe" the people here would answer the question and in the process start a very cool collective knowledge thread about feet. If everyone here just posted what foot/feet they have used and what they like or dislike about them you could have the most accurate and definitive review of prosthetic feet on the planet (no joke)  :)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Mitchee on March 02, 2008, 04:18:00 PM
I also elected to amputate my lower leg.  I had a consultation with Dr. Jan Ertl as well.  He is a great surgeon but due to logistics I ended up having my Ertl type amputation done in Wisconsin.  When I knew that I was going to have to amputate my lower leg, I also did lots of research.  I went to the Medical College of Wisconsin and used their library to search the medical journals for amputation info and that is how I found out about the Ertl procedure and located Dr. Ertl.  I educated myself as best I could so that I would ask appropriate questions and have realistic expectations from the procedure.  I also met with my prosthetist prior to my amputation and asked him a ton of questions.  I had researched different sockets and feet on the internet.  My prosthetist's advice was to try several different feet and through trial and error I would find what worked best for me.  He was right.

I'm glad that I took the time (and had the time) to educate myself but the most important thing that I learned from my amputation is that while research is great, actually trying different products when you are building your prosthesis is what is important.  The foot that I thought I wanted, turned out to be something I didn't like at all.  I was able to try several different feet and find the perfect foot for me.  The foot I'm currently using isn't anything that I had done any research on or even heard of.   ;) 

You will find what works for you through trial and error.  Try the products that you have researched but keep an open mind to any other products that your physician or prosthetist may recommend.

Good luck and I hope that you are walking soon.   :)

Michelle
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: jmoore on March 02, 2008, 04:31:31 PM
my amp was elective to bad knee 26 surgeries on it i had a erti done Feb.15,07 it took 3 months of no weight bearing if you rush it the muscles will not hold right it took me 8 to 9 months of hard work to be a beginning k4 and i still am going to a high end pt to learn more so don't rush it i started with a middle level carbon high energy return foot with a torque adapter and a high end knee it work to get me where i am at now, now i got my micro processor knee  and use a split foot from freedom called pacifica with again a torque adapter for my ankle i like it because i live in the mountains when you step on uneven ground it works just like a normal foot and ankle it took time to get use to it and trust it.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Mitchee on March 02, 2008, 04:35:23 PM
I'm not speaking for everyone and I'm not trying to be politically correct but I think the reluctance to recommend a specific product is because every amputee really is different.  I know that it sounds trite, but I don't think that amputees want to recommend something to someone and then find out that what they recommended didn't turn out to be "the greatest thing since sliced bread."  (I know a person that absolutely loves their Ossur Re-flex VSP and I tried it and thought it was heavy and cumbersome.) 

I understand that you are looking for the pros and cons of the various products.

I hope that you get the info that you are looking for.





Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 03, 2008, 05:57:17 AM
You've decided that amputees know best, the truth is, they only know what's best for them. That isn't necessarily any use to you. To think it might be misses the point. You can study and ask opinions as much as you like, it doesn't replce actually trying the product yourself.
I don't believe in your suggestion that like this we can get an accurate and definitive review of anything.
You have missed the fact that what is right for you is based on clinical decisions made by professionals, at best, amputee's opinions are of incidental use, there's nothing definitive about them.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 03, 2008, 02:37:01 PM
There is one major flaw in your reasoning OBL -- if what your saying is true  then your prosthetist isn't qualified to fit you either. becasue he is fitting you based on the opinions of other amputees that he has fit that are similar to you. So are you saying that myself and other amputees are not able to learn and apply the same things as my prosthetist? ;)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 04, 2008, 05:04:47 AM
There is one major flaw in your reasoning OBL -- if what your saying is true  then your prosthetist isn't qualified to fit you either. becasue he is fitting you based on the opinions of other amputees that he has fit that are similar to you. So are you saying that myself and other amputees are not able to learn and apply the same things as my prosthetist? ;)

What I'm saying is that a knee, for instance, will be chosen taking into account the amputee's muscle control, strength, atrophy, ability, level of amputation, length of residuum, any pre-existing conditions such as contracture, desired and intended activity levels, weight etc etc... none of these things, initially at least, are anything to do with the amputee. Prosthetists study the anatomy and the biomechanical implications of their choices for years to become professionals at what they do. I'm just saying that to dismiss this and believe that what amputees have to say about thier singular experience is probably not the best approach.
By the way, I'm not a prosthetist in case you were wondering  ;)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 04, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
OK I'll buy this answer, and I don't disagree with what you are saying, I have never once said that my prosthetist isn't skilled or qualified to build a leg. ;D

 Quick question for you OBL (I ask this in all honesty so please answer honestly)  -- Q- If myself or one of your good close friends asks you "what type of shoes have you used and what do you like or dislike about them?" what would you answer?
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Marilyn on March 04, 2008, 05:12:39 PM
I realize this question was not directed toward me, but I'll answer anyway...

Because shoes are a BIG deal to me.  I can't wear anything with much of a heel in the least -- the flatter the better.  I know amputees who MUST have the recommended 5/8th's heel.  Nothing is set in stone.  We are all genuinely different!

My fit is so weird that I am most comfortable barefoot.  Shoes mess me up.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 05, 2008, 04:42:15 AM
OK I'll buy this answer, and I don't disagree with what you are saying, I have never once said that my prosthetist isn't skilled or qualified to build a leg. ;D

 Quick question for you OBL (I ask this in all honesty so please answer honestly)  -- Q- If myself or one of your good close friends asks you "what type of shoes have you used and what do you like or dislike about them?" what would you answer?

I'm not sure of the relevence (although I can guess), but I'll play along... I where numerous different types of shoe, for work, I wear smart leather shoes, for outside work I wear trainers (sneakers) of several different types, or just casual shoes, converses... it depends what I'm doing and what else I'm wearing.

Just by the way, in my opinion this doesn't have any relevence to limb component choice.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on March 05, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Thank for the reply OBL -- ;D

 This question was a very simple question and it is relevant to this discussion in a couple ways.

First it show us if your the type of personality that can read a simple question and answer it the way it was asked, or are you just confrontational to all questions.  ;)

You should not be able to answer this question based on your reply to your prosthetic answer. Why?, - Because everyone on the planet truly have different feet. Feet are the first and foremost thing that allow us to walk and the design of our feet are what allow us to stand erect and walk without knee,hip and back problems. We all should have custom designed shoes (and many people do), but have you ever been told in your life that you or your friends are not qualified to recommend shoes to another human?, Based on how important your feet are to your over all health and mobility that you should only see a podiatrist because he's knowledge as a professional foot doctor is the only thing you should listen too when you need to pick shoes. The reason you have never been told you are not qualified to pick and buy your own shoes is because the shoe industry can make a shoe close enough to your needs that most people won't have any issues from the shoe being slightly "off". Also the shoe industry likes to make money and since their market is the 6.8 billion people on this planet they really don't want you to know that 80% of your daily comfort is a result of your feet being comfortable and in the right position. Imagine how far shoe sales would drop if you had to see a podiatrist or orthopedist before you could buy your shoes. :o

Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 06, 2008, 04:20:03 AM
Sorry, but I don't agree with the comparison you're making, I think you've gone a way too far. To compare feet with the myriad amputee residual limbs and implications of fit and component choice of prostheses is just meaningless.

By the way Tigertatt, congratulations, you've got -1 Karma rating too now! I'm no longer the only one  ;D (I blame you for mine in the first plcae ;)) not that I know what it means
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: naseigfried on March 06, 2008, 08:42:35 AM
I've worn a Renegade for the past three years. I like it a lot. It is light in weight and very responsive to my occasional run or trot. I stand all day and the springiness of the foot makes that more comfortable. I really, really like this foot.

With that being said, I will be needing a new rig this spring and the Perfect Stride is at the top of my list of feet to try. I've already asked my legman about what he thought of it. He's tried to fit two patients with this foot only to find problems. He told me that the company was aware of these problems and has since fixed them. I'm sure that is why it is now the Perfect Stride II. I have a friend who has worn one since last summer. She loves it.

I definitely want to know more about this foot.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 06, 2008, 09:07:55 AM
As a matter of interest, why do you think this foot seems to be the one everyone seems to want to try?

What is it about the foot that makes one want to try it over other feet?

By the way, this is not a leading/trick question, I'm genuinely interested.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: naseigfried on March 07, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
The foot is supposed to propel you better than most feet because of the design in the heel. It's not supposed to compress as much before it springs you forward. Since I like the Renegade so much, it looks like a better version of the Renegade in design.

My opinion. It's worth what it costs.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 07, 2008, 10:00:21 AM
My opinion. It's worth what it costs.

I definitely don't agree with that... if your marketing people think they can sell more if they make it look good by being expensive, it'll be expensive. Often the price is not related at all to how good something is.

Thinking about it, equally, if your marketing people under price something it looks cheap and people won't think it's as good as it actually is!

By the way, I was answering based on the fact you weren't specifically referring to the Perfect Stride, as you haven't tried it. As in, a generic 'it's worth what it costs'
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: naseigfried on March 08, 2008, 08:42:13 AM
I meant that my opinion is worth what it costs not the foot.

All prosthetic parts are overpriced in my opinion. We are forced to pay the price since we joined this club. I have to maintain a certain level of activity which makes it necessary to afford high activity components.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: ginger on March 08, 2008, 11:02:34 AM
Tigertatt,

Sorry I haven't been on for a while and didn't see your post until this morning.
I am a client of Mike Loves and he just changed my foot to the Centure by Ossure.  Boy what a difference!
I am a 38 Year old and have a 9 year old daughter, so as you can guess I am very active. 

I became a RAKA in 8/07 so I haven't had many different feet.
However, now that I have this new one, i have a lot more flexability and movement.
I really like that it makes walking easier by having shock absorption without much weight.  I really like the
flexibility and rotation.  I found that it is easier to walk on uneven surfaces. 

Hope that this helps a little.

Ginger
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Oneblueleg on March 10, 2008, 06:30:32 AM
I meant that my opinion is worth what it costs not the foot.

All prosthetic parts are overpriced in my opinion. We are forced to pay the price since we joined this club. I have to maintain a certain level of activity which makes it necessary to afford high activity components.

 :D :D I get it now  ;) it's worth more than it cost though  ;)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: frank on April 27, 2008, 03:41:42 PM
Tigertatt,
You were pretty enthusiastic about the Perfect Stride II foot. How about a review? Does it work well for K3-K4 activities? Is the extra weight an issue? Can you feel the heel cable engage?

I personally use the Renegade for higher activity levels. It works reasonably well but the balance between stiffness and compliance in any direction is very much a personal preference and is activity dependent. It would be interesting to hear your take on it.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on April 28, 2008, 02:01:28 AM
 The Perfect Stride II X3 (the X3 is the 08 upgrade that has an added carbon fiber shank doubling the titanium shank, this carbon fiber shank has allowed them to remove the limiting cable from the rear of the foot) is just awesome, but I only got to use it for 2 weeks before I had a major infection set in my stump. I'm currently on IV antibiotics every 12 hours and it looks like I won't be back in my leg for another 2-3 weeks at the earliest. >:(

 The foot is slightly heavy but not enough for me to really notice it and it sure doesn't bother me at all. I can feel every little bit of the foot from a nice heal strike to a very smooth roll over to a springy toe off. When I was able to move at a normal to faster walk on my gate the foot worked even better and more smooth, it feels like it just wants to run and I have no doubt that once I get the socket fit correct and lose this infection that running with this foot will be easy.  Since I have nothing  but my real foot to compair it too I can't tell you that it's better than any other foot on the market but I have a friend who just got the PS2X3 and he was using an Ossur Veri-Flex and he said it's 1000 times better than the veri-flex and the motion of the ankle in the PS2X3 is so close to the real thing that his gate is perfect on all types of terrain now.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on April 28, 2008, 01:46:39 PM
here's the exact quote from my friend who just got the Perfect Stride II X3 ---   "Yayyyyyyyy, I got my PerfectStride II X3 foot today and so far I love it. I thought the energy return on my Veri-Flex foot by Ossur was good but the return on the new foot is awesome. I was able to go up and down a staircase much easier than before. Walking on uneven ground was a snap. I haven't tried inclines and declines yet but I don't expect any problems with that aspect. When I started walking on the new foot in my prosthetists office it felt a bit strange, but a good strange. For the first time since my RBKA I actually had ankle movement when I walk. What a novel idea, an ankle that moves when you do. My prosthetist had warned me when I first requested the PerfectStride II X3 that it was a heavier foot. It may be heavier but it isn't very noticeable and it is worth every ounce of weight. I LOVE THIS FOOT!!!! "
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Mitchee on April 28, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
Thanks for the update on how you like the Perfect Sride II X3.  I hope your infection disappears and that you are walking soon.   :)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Robogirl on May 01, 2008, 03:14:05 PM

I was at my prosthetist's office yesterday and asked him what he thought of this foot.  He has only fit one, on an active duty military guy (AK), and he loves it.  BUT, the cost of the thing is astronomical for a foot?!  I'm told they bill out for $7500!  I know the military folks can get anything they want, and rightfully so, but for those of you who are not enlisted, are your insurance companies paying for it?

All in all my CP thinks it's a good foot - so far, but he doesn't believe it will hold up any better than other "active feet" out there like Renegade.  Time will tell!

Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: pegleg jack on May 01, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
TO-ALL, am wondering just why everyone has to have these fancy feet, i am highly active and us the COLLEGE PARK FOOT, it is the one with small amount of angle movement and i an having now problems at all with them have had them now for four years and can get around real well.  Feel that i am a K-4 person because of the remodelling and all the yard work that i do here at my home. The only thing i have had to have fixed on them is having the bumpers replaced twice now and that is it. I also climb laddeers and do many other things that i have to do and as i said have had no problems walking or doing what i have to do.

The question that i am asking is do these fancy named feet make you walk any better that the basic tried and true one that have been around for a long time.

I think that a lot of it is that they cost more and the cpo's are pushing them so that they can make more money by getting us to use them. My CPO hasn't tried to push any other fancier feet on me cause i am comfortable with what i have on now and they get the job done for me.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Mitchee on May 01, 2008, 05:29:33 PM



The question that i am asking is do these fancy named feet make you walk any better that the basic tried and true one that have been around for a long time.

Hi PLJ.  For me, it isn't a matter of having a fancy foot but rather having a foot that can keep up with me and provide me with a good gait.  Like a lot of amputees on this forum, I am also extremely active and I am a K4 rating.  Currently, I am using a Seattle Catalyst (a basic carbon fiber foot) which doesn't have all of the bells and whistles that some of the energy storing feet have but the foot works well for me.  Which goes to show that the most expensive foot isn't always the best foot for everyone.  It is still an individual preference.  When I need a new foot, I am interested in trying the Bioquest Perfect Stride foot because it is supposed to propel you through your stride with less effort and mimic a more natural gait.  With all of the activities that I do, I would like to use less effort to complete them.  When I need a new foot, I'm sure that there will be another foot on the market that will be creating the same buzz as the Perfect Stride foot.  I will also demo several different feet from various manufacturers before I decide which foot is appropriate for me.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatt on May 01, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
 I have never seen a price for the PS2 but I've always heard that it was one of the most expensive feet on the market. My case is workmans comp so price is no object to me but my friend who I posted his review of the Perfect Stride, he is on medicare and they paid for his Perfect Stride II X3 no questions asked. This foot is pretty much a cross between the renegade and the collage park trustep, the PS2 has all the ankle movement of the TruStep which is something I must have where I live but it also has has the energy return and storage of the renegade so it makes it a great daily walker too.

 In the 20 plus prosthetist I have interviewed or talked too, I have yet to run across very many prosthetists who have used the Perfect Stride (my prosthetists office included, I made them special order it for me and my foot was the first Perfect Stride they had seen in person. Even in my prosthetit's office you can tell which prosthetists try to stay up to date on the new products and which ones are stuck with what they know and like, 1/2 of them were gathered around me checking out the foot as I was being fit and the other half could careless ) The few prosthetist that  have used the PS2 really really like it and say they are going to start using it on more patients.

 I do agree with PLJ though and I think the college park feet are some well built and designed feet. My 2nd leg that I'm designing now is going to be a College Park TruStep with a Brio so I can use the leg around the house like a slipper. I want to be able to just throw my leg on and loaf around the house barefoot or be able to throw on some crocs and go outside and do some yardwork. The TruStep should be a perfect foot for all my uneven terrain and since I'll only be using it for mowing or blowing off the walkways or pulling weeds I won't need the energy return of my Perfect Stride and since it's not going to be my daily walking foot I won't wear out the bumpers and stops as fast either.  :)
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Tigertatts on June 08, 2008, 07:33:48 PM
Here's a video of a friend of mine skating on his new Perfect Stride 2 X3 foot  ---  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuSzKsMcnOk  ----  He's a K4 amputee of 22 years and says the Perfect Stride 2 is the best over all foot he has ever used. Prior to this foot he used the Ossur flex foot Mod 111 and the Seattle Cadence HP for everything from hunting, biking, hockey, running, and roller blading. He said he LOVES how the PS2 works on uneven ground and the energy return on the PS2 is as good or better then the Mod 111. He recently broke his Mod 111 playing hockey and he tried the new improved model of the Cadence HP but said the new Cadence was much softer than his old Cadence and wasn't much good for higher level activities.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: dozerdude on August 01, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
How about the cheapest foot? Invented by my guy Rob Gabourie.
http://www.niagarafoot.com/

Bob
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: frank on August 10, 2008, 01:00:48 AM
Bob,
How cheap is the Niagarafoot? It looks like it would make a great beach foot
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: chrysochloridae on September 18, 2008, 04:53:27 PM
dunno, i've never ssn or heard about one till i read your post!
Otto BOck have a Dynamic foot which is excellent for beach legs. they are also pretty cheap
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: frank on September 20, 2008, 01:01:45 AM
It looked like the Niagarafoot is used bare without a footshell. It was interesting because I wouldn't have to clean the sand and saltwater out of the shell like you have to with a lot of the graphite feet. The Otto Bock foot looks interesting but the footshell does not look sealed.
Title: Re: Pefect Stride II foot
Post by: Showtime1k on May 08, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
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