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Title: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 04, 2008, 08:20:16 PM
just got word today and i am going to have an operation on both of my stumps to remove bone spurs that are raising cain with my walking. they are about 3 inches below my knee on the outside of my stumps, we are gong to try removing them and then if that doesnot work then i will have to sit down with my CPO and design a socket with a hole in the side to relieve where  it rubs on the spur(if by chance it grows back on me). Dont have the exact date yet, they will let me know friday, do know that is in mid JULY. after i make the reunion later this month, did want to be tied down to a wheel chiar then, for i am getting a personallize tour of the USS MIDWAY in SAN DIEGO while i am there and have to do some ladders and knee knockers to get to where he is taking us.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: teo on June 05, 2008, 11:19:20 PM
i wish for the smooth sailing jack!  :)
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Post by: herb on June 06, 2008, 07:43:08 PM
Hi Jack - good luck with your surgery. Hope it goes well and is not too painful. Will it be done as an outpatient? It is strange that sometimes when you want bone to grow it will not and sometimes it grows when it is not wanted. I had around  ten fractures in my leg and some took too long to mend and I had to have 3 different bone grafts to get them to start mending. They took so much bone off my pelvis on both sides for the grafts that now I have trouble keeping my pants up.  Herb
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Post by: Myffanwy on June 06, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
OMG, for real, Herb??  The pants...?

And, PLJ, I wish you the very best of outcomes.  Being an amputee can truly test our metal at times, eh? 

And, PLJ, what's a "knee knocker"???   ;)

Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 06, 2008, 10:17:10 PM
Myffanwy, the answer to the knee knocker is that if you look at some of the navy ship hatches they are not square and the bottom of the hatch is about 8 to 10 inches off the deck, that is what they call a knee knocker, because if when going throulgh the hatch if you dont pick your knees up high enough it will hit it or you will catch yourr foot and down you go on your knees on the other side. If you have watch any of the movies about our navy and watch a salior kind of jump up and through the hatch or door you will also see them.

Herb, as far as i know it will be  out patient and maybe one night in the hospital for them to make sure everthing went the way it should. hopefully i will only laid up for about a week, not more than two weeks i hope.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: metdrs on June 09, 2008, 08:55:48 PM
Jack,

I have a similar problem with my below the knee socket, and we solved it with a window cut in the socket. The top of my fibula sticks out on both of my legs. I probably should have been in braces as a kid to have straighten them. Too late now.

The neat part of my socket is that there is a soft plastic liner inside the socket. It gives me support, while relieving the pressure in that area.

Hope all goes well with the surgery.

Dave S
North East Pa
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Post by: Steve C on June 10, 2008, 06:27:19 AM
Good luck on the surgery! I'm sure it'll go without a hitch and you'll be walking about the Midway without a bother.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 10, 2008, 08:43:07 AM
SteveC, the surgery wont be until after i get back from the reunion, they didnt have time to do if before i had to leave for SAN DIEGO. but i dont plan on being down or in my chair more than a week at the most, may wind up having to have new sockets make i dont know yet, but do know i will have to do some duct tape work on one of them to fill in where i ground out to relieve the pressure on one of the spurs,
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 11, 2008, 09:01:20 AM
UPDATE: they have set the operation date, it will be JULY 16 at 7:30 in the morning and i should be home that night or afternoon, depending on if every thing goes the way it should.
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Post by: chasamp on June 12, 2008, 11:38:36 AM
I am curious as to how they diagnosed the bone spurs? I have extreme sharp pains. It is not ciruculation pain but feels like bone pain. THey have done x-rays and said nothing showed up. Even though nothing showed up on the x-rays I know something is going on.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 12, 2008, 03:49:43 PM
Chasamp, my bone spurs are sticking out of the side of my leg, the one on my left stump is almost the size of my old angle bone, it is a growth on the bone that build up until it cause problems and mine are rubbing against my socket and are real painfull and at time have plisters and will open and start bleeding on me, have to be carefull that i dont get infections in them, they are going to shave them down so that the side is flat, if you get a bone spur on your stump you will see it as it gets bigger and bigger.
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Post by: chrysochloridae on June 13, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
I am curious as to how they diagnosed the bone spurs? I have extreme sharp pains. It is not ciruculation pain but feels like bone pain. THey have done x-rays and said nothing showed up. Even though nothing showed up on the x-rays I know something is going on.

a bone spur would definitely show up on an x-ray.

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Post by: chasamp on June 14, 2008, 07:56:54 PM
Anyone have any ideas what the sharp pains could be from then? I know I need to ask the dr, but don't see him again until the 25th. Just wondering if it could be something like the bone hitting a nerve or something. It is driving me crazy.
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Post by: pegleg jack on June 15, 2008, 08:46:59 AM
Chasamp, have a feeling that your having what we call zingers, it feels like an electric shock and also feels like it is in the bone, that is just another form of phantoms, i get them from time to time, and they come and go  when they feel like it  i have found by drinking a lot of water during the day will keep them at bay, and now that the heat is up down here where i live i have had to increase the amount of water intake, for i am sweating it out almost as fast as i drink it. It was over 90 degrees yesterday and is up to 80 all ready this morning and it is only 7:46 AM.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: Annie on June 18, 2008, 12:18:26 PM
Good luck Jack.  I have a bone spur also, which has been giving me my recent problems, luckily its on the end of my stump and will come off with the end of it when I have the revision. 

Chasamp, I am sure any spurs would show up on x ray, mine is sticking right out and very visible to the naked eye, so you would probably know if you had them.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on June 18, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
cHASEAMP. They sure will show up. i had almost forgotten, when my wife had her ROTOR CUFF surgeray. she had two bone  spurs that showed up when she had her MRI.
And when they operated they cut them down and smoothed outs the bone area.

you can also see both of mine, by just looking and feeling  the side of my stumps.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on July 15, 2008, 09:06:37 AM
UP DATE ON SURGERY

CHECK in at 6:30 Texas time tommar ow and the surgery is at 7:30 will have to spend one night in the hospital and will be home on Thursday morning. They are doing both legs at the same time, so that i am only laid up one time for this.

Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: herb on July 15, 2008, 10:12:13 AM
Good luck on your surgery, Jack. Hope it solves your problems and you have a rapid recovery. Herb
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Post by: ann on July 15, 2008, 11:19:24 AM
UP DATE ON SURGERY

CHECK in at 6:30 Texas time tommar ow and the surgery is at 7:30 will have to spend one night in the hospital and will be home on Thursday morning. They are doing both legs at the same time, so that i am only laid up one time for this.




'PegLeg'

Will keep you in prayer & remember " no flying too high".  Knowing you - you will be up and running very quickly.   ;) ann
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Post by: Myffanwy on July 15, 2008, 07:04:32 PM
Best wishes for a rapid recovery, PLJ!   ;)
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Post by: pyourke on July 16, 2008, 03:06:39 PM
Good luck today, Pegleg...
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Post by: pegleg jack on July 21, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Just to let you all know i am home and in my wheels, legs are still swollen up a bit but am wearing shrinkers on them now, and hope to be back up on my leg around wed of this week, am still coming off of the morphine that they gave me in the hospital, still getting nasty headache from it, but that happened to me before so i know what i have to do,

Had them do a spinal block, the doctor advised me to go this way in order not to increase the chances of more phantom pain in both legs, had fun laying there talking to the people in the room while the doc was cutting on my legs. And he was right, and in fact my phantom are less than what they were when i went in, just spent one night in so that wasnt so bad. It is just the fact that i am stuck in my wheels that i hate for awhile, but will get over it, give me a chance to get caught up on here with what i need to do with some of my other projects that i am working on.

Will let you know when i take my first step agian.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: Mitchee on July 21, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
Hi PLJ, 

I'm glad to hear that everything went okay.  It sounds like you are feeling pretty good.  I'm sure that you will be up and around in no time at all.  Thanks for the update and I hope that you continue to heal quickly.

Michelle
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Post by: metdrs on July 21, 2008, 10:56:06 AM
Hi PLJ,

Glad to hear that you are doing well, and hope your progress continues.

We do need you here, Let us know when you are back up and around.


Dave S
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pyourke on July 21, 2008, 02:54:41 PM
Good to hear that the ops is over and you're home! My fingers are crossed that you are back on your 'peg' by Wednesday!
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: chrysochloridae on July 27, 2008, 07:23:13 AM
I am sure any spurs would show up on x ray, mine is sticking right out and very visible to the naked eye, so you would probably know if you had them.

Bone spurs definitely show up on an xray... but they can't always be seen with the naked eye; an X-Ray is the only way to make a definite diagnosis. If you could see the spur then it must be a really bad one!!!!!


Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on July 27, 2008, 09:31:55 AM
Well here is and update, today is the day that i am going to put my liners on and wear them for a while and see what happens, the swelling has gone on both legs. will cover the stitches with a bandaid so that the liner dosent pull on them.

Golden mole, yes it was a big one and could be seen real easy on my left stump.
So i am making progress, i have to because my front yard is a mess and needs mowed and the wife is to small to drive my big lawn tractor. and also is not heavy enough to make the seat switch work.
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Post by: Myffanwy on July 27, 2008, 05:28:03 PM
Boy, you're quite the guy, PLJ!  Nothing keeps you down! 
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Post by: pegleg jack on July 28, 2008, 09:58:25 AM
Wore my liners for about three hours yesterday and then tryed to put my legs on found out that i am going have to go back to my 3 MM liners for my 6 MM lliners are to thick right now, almost got my right leg on, so i am getting there.

Its 8:56 AM here and i am setting here with my liners on right now and am using my real tight 6 MM's to shrink down my stumps today and will try agian in the PM. and see what happens.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on July 30, 2008, 09:08:48 AM
UPDATE  am going in today and have the stitches take out and then just maybe i can start working on getting my legs back on.
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Post by: Myffanwy on July 30, 2008, 01:37:07 PM
So, PLJ, what are you doing to bring the legs back to "normal" size again?  I don't imagine you will force them into your sockets, will you?  Just shrinker use?   :)
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on July 30, 2008, 05:08:47 PM
Myff, i can get my right one on now, its a little tight yet, my leftone the doc today said that it may take a couple more days for the swell to get down where i can get my leg on, will start wearing my tight liners tomarrow for a couple hours a day that way i can get them down to the old size.
Got the stiches out and now can start my V-E  trreatment and that will help out a lot.

If worse comes to worse, i still have my old sockets that were to big for me and i can use them agian if i have to, just a matter of putting the feet back on them.

I already know i will have to go back to my 3 MM liners for a while.
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Post by: Myffanwy on July 30, 2008, 06:51:08 PM
Did I miss it...what's a VE treatment? 
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on July 31, 2008, 10:24:58 PM
Myff, v-e treatment is vit-E oil that i use to rub on the incision to prevent getting a big scare in that area, and it also helps get rid of callouses that are forming on the end of my stump
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 08, 2008, 07:59:29 AM
HELLO ro all of you GUYS and GALS out there, well i finially got to put on a pair of legs yesterday, and believe it or not i had to use the very first pair that was made for me back in 2002,(yes i still had them) my stumps have bulked up on me and am going to have to reshrink them so that my last pair of sockets will fit or better i can get in to them, only wore them for about 2 hours and that is all i could take, now i have messed up a nerve end in my left stump so may have to back off for a couple of days and see what happens, maybe by getting into my pool and swimming in the warm water i have (it was 92 degrees wed) and it sure felt good.
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Post by: Myffanwy on August 09, 2008, 03:07:13 AM
Ahh, to have a pool...wish I could come over, PLJ!   ;)
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Post by: Annie on August 10, 2008, 07:21:36 AM
Glad you are on the way to recovery PLJ.

That pool sounds nice.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 10, 2008, 09:24:25 AM
NEW update, had my legs on for three hours yesterday and walk about 40 feet with them one with the aid of my walker.

And yes i love that pool and the way the guy that had it put in, it has a green house building over it so i dont get all the leaves and tharsh blown into it so my maintance cost are way down, they only come twice a month to check it for me. As for having a pool i fought it big time when i was younger, for i had seen what had happen to some of our friend after they had thiers put in, it seemed like all the kid for about three blocks were over there every day and what a mess they had trying to get that stopped. so now i can lock up the pool house and dont have to worry about have the nieghbors kid in my pool unless they are invited to come over.

Annie and Myff, would love to have you both come over and have fun in it. You would love the jacuzzi with the high powered air jets that are in it.
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Post by: Myffanwy on August 10, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
Stop it, stop it, PLJ!  I'm just "green" with envy...haha!  Maybe one day my pool will come!   :D
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: JClark on August 11, 2008, 12:35:33 AM
I had bone spurs, when the doc went in to grind them off (my term not his) he told me later that it was nice to see such a big one, it was easy to find and he was certain that it was causing the pain.  He implied that some people blame bone spurs and have such tiny ones....

I think I fixed the bone spurs for good when I had the Ertl revision.  In my experience/opinion, I think all the doctors need to learn the Ertl process.
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Post by: snowbear on August 15, 2008, 01:57:22 PM
How are you feeling PLJ? Sounds like your doing well.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 15, 2008, 07:52:26 PM
Was able to wear my old pair of legs for about 6 hours today and did quit a bit of walking using m walker, the old legs dont fit just right but unable to get my last pair on just yet. But i had laser treatment on the area where i had the bone spurs cut off and it has helped in the healling proccess, so it looks like i just might make afterall.
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Post by: snowbear on August 15, 2008, 09:35:21 PM
Of course you will make it! we are all survivors! and we never give up. I'm happy your able to get around a little Don't push it to much! Take good care.
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 17, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
You are right about not pushing it. I did it yersterday and am paying for it today, one of the reasons i am pushing it is i am having some personnal problems concering my legs and need to get back up and walking to get it cleared up if possible.

THANKS TO ALL THAT HAVE POSTED ON HERE.
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Post by: snowbear on August 17, 2008, 09:11:47 AM
Yeah When we push it we pay for it..We need to draw the line I always push it and then pay for it.

Take it easy..I know its easier said them done. :)
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Post by: Myffanwy on August 17, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
Problems are always sorted better ON your legs, eh, PLJ?  If possible.  Again:   :-*
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Post by: pegleg jack on August 21, 2008, 08:56:11 AM

The lastest up date, am up to 8 ply socks now on the old legs and it looks like maybe next week will be able to start wearing my last  pair instead of my first pair of legs, Where he cut the bone down is healling real nice and itches like crazy so i know it is okay.
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Post by: Myffanwy on August 22, 2008, 04:11:31 AM
You're a big fan of vit E, PLJ.  It's great for healing, esp scars. 
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 22, 2008, 08:36:46 AM
myff, ypur are right i am and use it every night just before i but on my shrinkers and it does help
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Post by: ann on August 27, 2008, 07:40:16 PM
 I always used it after my amputation...I was told it would help make the scar heal nicer...it healed very quickly and flat.   ;) ann
Title: Re: going under the knife
Post by: pegleg jack on August 28, 2008, 08:56:35 AM
To all that wear those silicone liners, have by accident found a new use for it, dont know about all of you, but i get a red rash from the liner and it itches like crazy, well the other night i was putting on the scar and i decided to rub some on the rash and it quit itching and the reddness has gone down.

But like i always say it may work for me but not everyone. worth a try to find out if you are getting like i do.
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Post by: Steve C on August 28, 2008, 03:16:04 PM
I do get  a red rash 'ring' around the my leg at the precise spot where the liner stops. I'll try that Vit E and tell you how I get on.